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« on: July 07, 2010, 03:53:10 PM »

This is something that definitely should be covered and considered! I don't have a lot of time right now, so I'll just do one. If you feel I am mistaken, please post it here so we can discuss and share ideas as this is in no way set in stone. It'd be cool if fusion and dvd could each do at least one of these, just pick any special move you like!

Roundhouse Tier List:

1. Baraka  Grin
2. Sub-Zero / Scorpion / Reptile
3. Kung Lao (not useful for anti air, but it owns in the pressure game)
4. Raiden (only because of the infinite capabilities)
5. Jax
6. Liu Kang (useful for anti air against most characters, contrary to popular belief)
7. Shang Tsung
8. Johnny Cage
9. Mileena / Kitana
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 11:33:30 PM »

Sweep Tier List

Janitor of the Month:  Cheesy

It's tough between him and the girls... I think the girls have a little more range but his come out super fast and don't necessarily have bad range.. what do you guys think?

2. Kitana / Mileena
3. Baraka
4. Scorpion / Reptile / Sub-Zero
5. Raiden
6. Johnny Cage
7. Jax
8. Liu Kang
9. Kung Lao

Updated edit

In no specific order as of yet.

Top:
Kitana/Mileena
Shang Tsung
Baraka

Middle:
Reptile/Scorpion/Sub Zero
Johnny Cage
Raiden

Jax is here haha  Angry

Bottom: Liu Kang

Shithole: Kung Lao

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 11:51:52 PM »

Ectonaut, if it's between any two characters, it's between Baraka and the females. Shang's sweep comes out fast, but it's clumsy and short-ranged. I would say Baraka is #1 and the girls are #2.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2010, 01:09:31 AM »

it's very close to me but i would take mileena and kitana sweep over eveyone's because it is very fast plus it has good range. baraka has better range but much slower. shang is the fastest without a doubt but doesn't have enough range for me to put at number1. i think the girls have total package here.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2010, 09:12:34 AM »

Uppercut Tier list

1. Lui Kang
2. Kitana / Mileena
3. Raiden/ Johnny Cage /Baraka / Kung Lao
4. Shang Tsung / Jax
5. Sub / Scorp / Rep

again this is just my personal opinion.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2010, 11:43:01 AM »

Definately without a doubt the first one is right Liu has range on his uppercut I thing Millena and kitana should be last seeing as their uppercuts are more "straight up" then the ninjas are. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2010, 12:07:50 PM »

Uppercut Tier list

1. Lui Kang
2. Kitana / Mileena
3. Raiden/ Johnny Cage /Baraka / Kung Lao
4. Shang Tsung / Jax
5. Sub / Scorp / Rep

again this is just my personal opinion.
Fuse, I think the females have the best uppercuts. How many times do you try to anti-air uppercut shang and baraka with liu and miss? The females NEVER miss those. Also, I think Lao is #2 on that list, then liu #3.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2010, 01:26:53 PM »

Like i said , only my opinion. Its what ive always trusted buddy Wink
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2010, 04:58:59 PM »


Roundhouse Tier List:

4. Raiden (only because of the infinite capabilities)


 Huh?  care to expand on this, as it is news to me of 'infinite' potentials within 0ur beloved game.

Hop-kick Tier List:

1. Shang
2. Kung
3. Ninjas
4. Means
5. Cage
6. Raiden
7. Baraka
8. Jax
9. Kang

unless of course fusion is playing any of the above mentioned characters.... then they're all lumped into top tier status  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2010, 05:38:33 PM »

For sweeps I'd to give it to Shang. IWhen it comes to sweep battles I'm convinced he's the king for that shit.  Shang's come out fast and every once in a while an extra few inches are added to his foot for whatever reason.   Shocked

And I'd put the ladies over baraka, but only for speed.

For roundhouse, I'd put the ninjas JUST over baraka. The ninjas can roundhouse anything when timed right. But it's a bit more difficult to time baraka's RH, although he is a beast with it.

THROWS, for me would be: as in who I would trust the most to get it.

Shang Tsung
Cage
Jax
Females
Baraka
Raiden
Kang
Ninjas
Kung Lao

Throws may be the hardest to make a list for. I'm not a pro on them, this is just from experience
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2010, 09:08:18 PM »

Huh?  care to expand on this, as it is news to me of 'infinite' potentials within 0ur beloved game.
Sure, the ninjas and raiden are the only ones who can do roundhouse infinites in the corner.  Tongue

As far as hop kicks go... just to clarify, this is when you barely take off the ground, hit a standing opponent, and quickly come back to the ground, correct? If so, kung lao probably has one of the weakest "hop-kicks". I have NEVER been able to hit a standing opponent in this manner with him. The people who this works with very well are:

Shang
Mileena/Kitana
Johnny Cage
Baraka
Raiden (?)
Jax (?)
The ninjas (but only against certain characters)

EDIT** It's probably best if you just write the tier list for jump-kicks, since "hop-kicks" are just an unorthodox way of using jump-kicks.
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2010, 09:26:22 PM »

For sweeps I'd to give it to Shang. IWhen it comes to sweep battles I'm convinced he's the king for that shit.  Shang's come out fast and every once in a while an extra few inches are added to his foot for whatever reason.   Shocked

And I'd put the ladies over baraka, but only for speed.

For roundhouse, I'd put the ninjas JUST over baraka. The ninjas can roundhouse anything when timed right. But it's a bit more difficult to time baraka's RH, although he is a beast with it.

THROWS, for me would be: as in who I would trust the most to get it.

Shang Tsung
Cage
Jax
Females
Baraka
Raiden
Kang
Ninjas
Kung Lao

Throws may be the hardest to make a list for. I'm not a pro on them, this is just from experience


wow gem you got lao last on the throws list lol. his throw comes in at number 1 to me lol. for whatever reason when i go for a throw with lao it seems to have priority over alot of shit when throws with all the other characters don't get that priority. idk just my opinion
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2010, 10:36:04 PM »

Sweep Tier List

Janitor of the Month:  Cheesy

It's tough between him and the girls... I think the girls have a little more range but his come out super fast and don't necessarily have bad range.. what do you guys think?

2. Kitana / Mileena
3. Baraka
4. Scorpion / Reptile / Sub-Zero
5. Raiden
6. Johnny Cage
7. Jax
8. Liu Kang
9. Kung Lao

I think numbers 1 through 4 are top and they're places can be argued.  Then 5 through 7 are average, and their places could be interchanged.  Then we have Liu who is the second worst  Cry and Mr. Lao in dead last with his nubby little legs.



Male Ninjas and Cage have the EXACT same sweep.  Number of frames, recovery, everything.  You have to list all 4 together unless you are basing the list off of options after sweep, in which case you would have to list Sub-Zero higher for Ground Ice capabilities (which are not always guaranteed, but are gdlk anyways)

Also, Raiden's sweep recovers faster than the male ninjas.

Plus, where is Shang on the list?  His sweep is so fast and underrated.  Sets up his gdlk jab game.
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2010, 10:55:39 PM »

kaz has shang as number 1 konqrr, its the little smiley you see
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2010, 12:00:44 AM »

Plus, where is Shang on the list?  His sweep is so fast and underrated.  Sets up his gdlk jab game.
Yeah, ectonaut listed shang as top tier for sweeps. I on the other hand think that crown should go to baraka. Baraka has slightly less reach than the females, but you can pull off his sweeps back to back much faster than the females. What you say about Johnny cage's sweeps makes sense though... but for some reason, I think the ninjas have a tiny wee bit more reach than cage... no? I would love to see you write up a tier list for any of the normals... especially the uppercuts.

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