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« on: May 22, 2010, 04:37:53 PM »

Hey guys could someone give me the low down on anti air high punching with the ninjas. It's not really a part of my game right now, but I have seen alot of people use the tactic very effectively and I was hoping someone could just give me a quick rundown of it.

I know the combos you can do with it for the most part. Basically what Im asking is who it will work against, and the prime distance for using the tactic.
Id venture to guess, it probably fails against baraka, shang, and cage; is there anyone else?


thx for the help guys

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 11:49:51 PM »

Your fist has to meet their foot at the right moment, so you have to throw it out there a little bit early. Try to catch them at the top of their jump. Ninjas can AAHP other ninjas, the female ninjas (kunoichi), jax, raiden... and maybe johnny cage?? but that's it. Female ninjas have a much better HP for AAHP. Kung lao also has a great HP. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2010, 01:00:49 AM »

doesnt kung lao have the same HP as Liu Kang?
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2010, 07:06:22 AM »

No, Kung Lao's HP is WAY superior. Have you ever tried HP jabbing a ninja that's crouch blocking with lao?  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 10:45:48 PM »

NO  Shocked!!! Damn bro, my friend who got me into this game again told me that the ninjas(male/female) were made the same as well as the monks.

Lmao....wow Thx for the info man I usually just use that hat bash against blocking opponents cuz I never thought I could get good jab pressure w/ lao
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2010, 10:11:07 AM »

Kraptile, you gotta stand at just enough of a distance that you can jab. Lao's HP's are devastating.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 08:40:25 PM »

AAhp could be a tricky business.
First though, aahp doesnt just mean...i wanna punch someone out of an air kick and capitalize with a special move or combo. But that kinda aahp is used most consistently by Fusion, Ariadelano, real_talk, konqr, and sushi. so yes these players have an aahp style...but its all skill.

There are also players that take advantage of block-punch, which seems like the AAhp style, but its not skill...its more of an automatic thing. first to block, then if the player jumps in the punches pay dividends. I do this sometimes in close range.

to use aahp as a skill, you gotta practice daily until you can time the punch(es) perfectly. I remember i used to practice with Nuk8...keep this in mind when you practice with a buddy:
1. the easiest air move to use aahp with is the jump punch. practice with your opponent performing jump punches...to perfect the moves or combos you can do after the punch.
2. the way i see it, there are 2 jump kicks: the active jump kick and the inactive jump kick. The inactive jump kick (when you press the jump and kick commands at the same time) can always be punched out of the air, as long as you keep a certain distance. The active jump kick (when you press jump and THEN press kick) is much harder to anti-air. Gotta have distance and timing.

IMO the female ninjas have the best aahp.
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 09:06:32 PM »

Rdz21, if something helps you win an mk2 match, guess what, it's skill! Please don't start with "these guys that streak people over here have great skill, but these other guys that streak people don't have skill". You need to be more open minded about mk2, friend.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 09:21:37 PM »

Rdz21, if something helps you win an mk2 match, guess what, it's skill! Please don't start with "these guys that streak people over here have great skill, but these other guys that streak people don't have skill". You need to be more open minded about mk2, friend.

i dunno where u pulling that shit from. last few times i played ariadelano i streaked him plenty...if hes a well practiced aahp player...it doesnt mean he is good or can streak...etc
im simply making the distinction between punch-block and distance Aahp. to do punch block u dont need skill...very easy. in other words, im not looking at the overall picture...im talking about aahp in particular.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 09:48:10 PM »

I understand what you're saying, but you shouldn't separate MK2 techniques by how hard they are to do and discredit someone for beating you using a strategy that isn't "that hard to do". Xiongbros and Scorpangel golden-punch like there's no tomorrow and they destroy people. On the other hand, there are other players that do that shit all day and end up not doing so well. Bottom line, if you are a good player, you will use any technique and win. The difficulty of the block-jabbing has nothing to do with anything.
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 10:55:13 PM »

rayden is the god of thunder. for my is good rayden he have good speed, warning JAX is slow but sure vs rayden i think xD Cool
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2010, 05:38:26 AM »

AAhp could be a tricky business.
First though, aahp doesnt just mean...i wanna punch someone out of an air kick and capitalize with a special move or combo. But that kinda aahp is used most consistently by Fusion, Ariadelano, real_talk, konqr, and sushi. so yes these players have an aahp style...but its all skill.

There are also players that take advantage of block-punch, which seems like the AAhp style, but its not skill...its more of an automatic thing. first to block, then if the player jumps in the punches pay dividends. I do this sometimes in close range.

to use aahp as a skill, you gotta practice daily until you can time the punch(es) perfectly. I remember i used to practice with Nuk8...keep this in mind when you practice with a buddy:
1. the easiest air move to use aahp with is the jump punch. practice with your opponent performing jump punches...to perfect the moves or combos you can do after the punch.
2. the way i see it, there are 2 jump kicks: the active jump kick and the inactive jump kick. The inactive jump kick (when you press the jump and kick commands at the same time) can always be punched out of the air, as long as you keep a certain distance. The active jump kick (when you press jump and THEN press kick) is much harder to anti-air. Gotta have distance and timing.

IMO the female ninjas have the best aahp.
ill add more if this is helpful...

no offense rz1 but that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. if you are not into golden punching you just dont understand it, you dont just "start punching then block" lol! if its so easy then why did you quit on me after i blasted you with jabs?  do you even know what "multple-aaHP golden punching is"? didnt think so. aaHP is easier, lets see you multi-aahp golden someone out of the air,is that easy? lmao!!!

regular aahp is cool, try multi-aahp golden punching then comment,until you have done it before (which i dont think you have) you wont understand it. anyone who thinks a single aaHP is better then multi-aaHP golden punching has no freaking clue about the tactic. and secondly implementing golden punching in the middle of all your tactics is EXRTREMELY high level play. rdz you quit on me then mocked me because i dont think you understood what was happening,just saying. my golden punching made you quit,dont comment and if you disagree send invite and ill film it.
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2010, 05:49:13 AM »

for RDZ:

anyone can see that golden punching gives you the only opportunity to do "multiple golden punching aaHP" now what is better 1 single standing aaHP or 2 to 3 of them?

Multiple aaHP Golden Punching.AVI


secondly, rdz, lets see how easy this is for you,try to implemet this combo -golden variation in your up close jabbing tactics:

1. lp,lp,lp,lp,lp,hp,lp,hp,lp(block)hp,lp,hp,lp,hp,lp



i think you called something "no skill" and you have no clue on the tactic what so ever and have never done any of this stuff before, dont mock people the next time.
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2010, 07:45:41 AM »

Dookie , i think what rdz means is that if your just standing there throwing high punches over and over trying to bait someone into jumkicking you its not really "skill" its more like " oh please jump kick me so i can get lucky and combo you!"  hes referring to the timing it takes to throw that one high/low punch when your opponent does jump in.  Which i agree with rdz 100%
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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2010, 08:09:32 AM »

right but he stated that it takes no skill, unless he is fami9liar with it you cant say that because the shit is rather deifficult to learn and implement. 3 aaHP's are better then 1 aaHP,sorry, more is more and less is less. golden multi-aaHP wins. why sit and time 1 aaHP when you can do 3? see vid.....
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