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« on: July 27, 2010, 04:07:43 AM »

Hello everyone!  

Today I recieved a invitation from reverseMICROWAVE after a few matches online via PSN and it is much appreciated.  Based on the online matches I have had on PSN I win about 95% of them therfor it's an honour to be invited to this group.  I just registered a few minutes ago and unfortunately I have employment obligations tomorrow so I must be off to bed HOWEVER it's nice to meet everyone and I will check out this site in more detail tomorrow.  I'm looking forward to meeting the best of the best in the near future.  Have a good one everyone!  


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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 04:08:57 AM »

Welcome.  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 09:18:26 AM »

Welcome to rawmk2, Mokshaingive! Add me, PSN: Foozer1  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 10:22:45 AM »

What's up everyone.  I'm an old school MK2 fan who happened upon this forum by chance.  I don't play online much, and by browsing it looks like you guys tend to play online more than offline.  That's cool though.  I only recently got MK2 for PSN but I don't play it very much, I usually play on Mame with my friends and at tournaments.

I have played in a number of MK2 tournaments going back as far as 1993 and 1994 when I was in high school.  Recently, I played in the MK2 tournaments at NEC in Philadelphia back in December and Winter Brawl, also in Philly.

I don't claim to be the best, but I can hold my own, I usually place in the top 4 when I do play.  I hope to see some of you guys soon at Summer Jam in Philly in about 3 weeks.  MK2 will be played on Saturday the 14th I think.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 10:45:16 AM »

What's up everyone.  I'm an old school MK2 fan who happened upon this forum by chance.  I don't play online much, and by browsing it looks like you guys tend to play online more than offline.  That's cool though.  I only recently got MK2 for PSN but I don't play it very much, I usually play on Mame with my friends and at tournaments.

I have played in a number of MK2 tournaments going back as far as 1993 and 1994 when I was in high school.  Recently, I played in the MK2 tournaments at NEC in Philadelphia back in December and Winter Brawl, also in Philly.

I don't claim to be the best, but I can hold my own, I usually place in the top 4 when I do play.  I hope to see some of you guys soon at Summer Jam in Philly in about 3 weeks.  MK2 will be played on Saturday the 14th I think.

Welcome to rawmk2, mk2tournaments! What was your name in that MK2 NEC Philly tourney? I know a lot of people who say playing "offline" is where it's at while they hold their noses up in the air... but the fact is that offline play gives you a false sense of "skill". I played the winner of that NEC Philly Tourney, Summoning. We played 25-30 fights of which he won about 4 of. In online play, players will do ANYTHING to win, whether it be from only picking high tiered characters or abusing game exploits. Let's face it, arcades are basically extinct and the only way to play "offline" is by inviting friends over or going to a buddy's house. I find that offline play is generally "friendlier" than online play and people don't really push the game to its limits.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 11:17:44 AM »

What's up everyone.  I'm an old school MK2 fan who happened upon this forum by chance.  I don't play online much, and by browsing it looks like you guys tend to play online more than offline.  That's cool though.  I only recently got MK2 for PSN but I don't play it very much, I usually play on Mame with my friends and at tournaments.

I have played in a number of MK2 tournaments going back as far as 1993 and 1994 when I was in high school.  Recently, I played in the MK2 tournaments at NEC in Philadelphia back in December and Winter Brawl, also in Philly.

I don't claim to be the best, but I can hold my own, I usually place in the top 4 when I do play.  I hope to see some of you guys soon at Summer Jam in Philly in about 3 weeks.  MK2 will be played on Saturday the 14th I think.

Welcome to rawmk2, mk2tournaments! What was your name in that MK2 NEC Philly tourney? I know a lot of people who say playing "offline" is where it's at while they hold their noses up in the air... but the fact is that offline play gives you a false sense of "skill". I played the winner of that NEC Philly Tourney, Summoning. We played 25-30 fights of which he won about 4 of. In online play, players will do ANYTHING to win, whether it be from only picking high tiered characters or abusing game exploits. Let's face it, arcades are basically extinct and the only way to play "offline" is by inviting friends over or going to a buddy's house. I find that offline play is generally "friendlier" than online play and people don't really push the game to its limits.

I'm a little bit confused.  I don't want to make a bad first impression seeming like an elitist who plays offline.  I have played my fair share of online MK2, including back to the days of MK2 on Xband for both SNES and Genesis, as well as Kaillera in recent years.  As I said, I'm not the best, I hold my own, but I am definitely a little confused at your statement.  I certainly won't hold my nose up in the air, and I hope you don't take it that way.

What confuses me is why you say that offline play creates a false sense of skill.  In my many years of playing MK2, both offline and online, I have found the reverse to be true.  Back when it was big on SNES Xband, believe it or not, Scorpion was god tier because of an online only exploit that allowed him to do an infinite with his spear.  Simply catch one spear, then repeat the spear over and over until the round was done.  People flooded the nationwide leaderboards with this method and they thought they were talented players, but I never took a loss to a Scorpion spear abuser with anything but a grain of salt, because that's not skill.  It might be a win, but it's not skill, and that tactic would never work in offline play, either in the arcade or on SNES.  To me, those online wins gave those players a false sense of skill.  Even in today's broadband connection with p2p for Mame, there are things that are safer online than offline.  These are things that I would personally never attempt offline, but I've been beaten by them online over and over again, only to know that I could punish them offline, so again, I take those losses with a grain of salt.  I am also a little confused as to how offline matches don't cause players to push the game to it's limits.  If a player is talented, then skill has little to do with being in your underwear in front of your tv or being at an arcade or being at a friends house.  The setting might be lighter, but if someone pulls their punches because they're in person, then shame on them for not playing their best.  If, however, people are using the online setting in order to avoid being nice to other people, and call that a competitive setting, THAT, I disagree with.

I don't want to offend anyone, that is not my desire and I don't want to give a bad first impression.  I just hope you understand what my point of view is.

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2010, 11:35:21 AM »

What's up everyone.  I'm an old school MK2 fan who happened upon this forum by chance.  I don't play online much, and by browsing it looks like you guys tend to play online more than offline.  That's cool though.  I only recently got MK2 for PSN but I don't play it very much, I usually play on Mame with my friends and at tournaments.

I have played in a number of MK2 tournaments going back as far as 1993 and 1994 when I was in high school.  Recently, I played in the MK2 tournaments at NEC in Philadelphia back in December and Winter Brawl, also in Philly.

I don't claim to be the best, but I can hold my own, I usually place in the top 4 when I do play.  I hope to see some of you guys soon at Summer Jam in Philly in about 3 weeks.  MK2 will be played on Saturday the 14th I think.

Welcome to rawmk2, mk2tournaments! What was your name in that MK2 NEC Philly tourney? I know a lot of people who say playing "offline" is where it's at while they hold their noses up in the air... but the fact is that offline play gives you a false sense of "skill". I played the winner of that NEC Philly Tourney, Summoning. We played 25-30 fights of which he won about 4 of. In online play, players will do ANYTHING to win, whether it be from only picking high tiered characters or abusing game exploits. Let's face it, arcades are basically extinct and the only way to play "offline" is by inviting friends over or going to a buddy's house. I find that offline play is generally "friendlier" than online play and people don't really push the game to its limits.

I'm a little bit confused.  I don't want to make a bad first impression seeming like an elitist who plays offline.  I have played my fair share of online MK2, including back to the days of MK2 on Xband for both SNES and Genesis, as well as Kaillera in recent years.  As I said, I'm not the best, I hold my own, but I am definitely a little confused at your statement.  I certainly won't hold my nose up in the air, and I hope you don't take it that way.

What confuses me is why you say that offline play creates a false sense of skill.  In my many years of playing MK2, both offline and online, I have found the reverse to be true.  Back when it was big on SNES Xband, believe it or not, Scorpion was god tier because of an online only exploit that allowed him to do an infinite with his spear.  Simply catch one spear, then repeat the spear over and over until the round was done.  People flooded the nationwide leaderboards with this method and they thought they were talented players, but I never took a loss to a Scorpion spear abuser with anything but a grain of salt, because that's not skill.  It might be a win, but it's not skill, and that tactic would never work in offline play, either in the arcade or on SNES.  To me, those online wins gave those players a false sense of skill.  Even in today's broadband connection with p2p for Mame, there are things that are safer online than offline.  These are things that I would personally never attempt offline, but I've been beaten by them online over and over again, only to know that I could punish them offline, so again, I take those losses with a grain of salt.  I am also a little confused as to how offline matches don't cause players to push the game to it's limits.  If a player is talented, then skill has little to do with being in your underwear in front of your tv or being at an arcade or being at a friends house.  The setting might be lighter, but if someone pulls their punches because they're in person, then shame on them for not playing their best.  If, however, people are using the online setting in order to avoid being nice to other people, and call that a competitive setting, THAT, I disagree with.

I don't want to offend anyone, that is not my desire and I don't want to give a bad first impression.  I just hope you understand what my point of view is.


Sorry man, I really wasn't trying to imply that you were snobbish or anything. But there ARE a few people who laugh at online play and say they only play offline while holding their noses up in the air. As far as the exploits go, there is no such thing as a scorpion spear infinite on ps3 online. But people do use jax's multiple ground pound, mileena turtle/sai spam game, etc online, and this IS an exploit... however, in order to actually win consistently using these strategies actually requires a certain degree of skill. Also, in order to beat a player who uses these exploits in an intelligent manner ALSO requires a degree of skill. So immediately the skill level bumps a few notches online. Let me ask you a question now.... if you were going to your buddy's house for a few Mk2 matches... would you only pick high tier characters and use these exploits to win? Or would you take your wins and losses with a grain of salt? Would you want to have fun with your pal? Or would you be more interested in winning?

For me, the people I am closest to are the ones that give me the hardest times. It's easy for me to try my 100% best against people online that I despise. But for instance, when I'm playing my best bud Fusion117, it's sometimes a bit difficult to "unleash the fury" so to speak... are you getting what I'm saying?

There's also the fact that in offline play, you will only be as good as your friends... whatever that might mean.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2010, 12:55:14 PM »

Sorry man, I really wasn't trying to imply that you were snobbish or anything. But there ARE a few people who laugh at online play and say they only play offline while holding their noses up in the air. As far as the exploits go, there is no such thing as a scorpion spear infinite on ps3 online. But people do use jax's multiple ground pound, mileena turtle/sai spam game, etc online, and this IS an exploit... however, in order to actually win consistently using these strategies actually requires a certain degree of skill. Also, in order to beat a player who uses these exploits in an intelligent manner ALSO requires a degree of skill. So immediately the skill level bumps a few notches online. Let me ask you a question now.... if you were going to your buddy's house for a few Mk2 matches... would you only pick high tier characters and use these exploits to win? Or would you take your wins and losses with a grain of salt? Would you want to have fun with your pal? Or would you be more interested in winning?

For me, the people I am closest to are the ones that give me the hardest times. It's easy for me to try my 100% best against people online that I despise. But for instance, when I'm playing my best bud Fusion117, it's sometimes a bit difficult to "unleash the fury" so to speak... are you getting what I'm saying?

There's also the fact that in offline play, you will only be as good as your friends... whatever that might mean.

Ok, I'm glad you didn't think I was trying to be like that.  I will agree that yes, when I do play casuals at a friend's house, I don't always pick top tier.  I do this for varying reasons though.  One thing is, if you learn all the characters and their properties, it makes playing them and developing a gameplan against that character easier.  That's why those games are casual matches though.  Serious matches require serious character choices, and I will always stick to my best or top tier if necessary.  So I do get what you mean about "Unleashing the fury", but I still have to do that on my friends as well, what happens if I see them in a tournament?  I do nothing for them if I go easy on them.  I do nothing for myself if I go easy on them.  Regarding the exploits, are they online only exploits or are they MK2 specific exploits that can be performed offline?  If they can be performed offline, then of course I would incorporate them into my game.  If they're tricks that are only online exploits, meaning that you can only do them while online, I would never incorporate that into my game because they are outside the rules of the game in it's original form and would only hurt me in a tournamet for thinking I could use that tactic.  That's why I brought up the Scorpion Spear Infinite from SNES Xband MK2, because I never used that tactic since it would only hurt my game to try to use it when not on the Xband.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 02:14:13 PM »

thats my point exactly bud..... I like going random wen my friends come over and they pick their counter to the character the cpu gave me.... it makes beating the that much sweeter
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2010, 09:09:19 PM »

Aside from Xband, can anyone tell me one glitch/exploit that can be done online using 3.1 that can't be done in the arcade?
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2010, 10:29:30 AM »


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Welcome to rawmk2, mk2tournaments! What was your name in that MK2 NEC Philly tourney? I know a lot of people who say playing "offline" is where it's at while they hold their noses up in the air... but the fact is that offline play gives you a false sense of "skill". I played the winner of that NEC Philly Tourney, Summoning. We played 25-30 fights of which he won about 4 of. In online play, players will do ANYTHING to win, whether it be from only picking high tiered characters or abusing game exploits. Let's face it, arcades are basically extinct and the only way to play "offline" is by inviting friends over or going to a buddy's house. I find that offline play is generally "friendlier" than online play and people don't really push the game to its limits.
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Some of the greatest and most difficult matches I've ever had were against you in your apartment. Honestly, most players wouldn't last two seconds against you in person, and that's foreal. Fusion handled us pretty well, though.  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 06:23:57 PM »

Hello everyone !

I'm a newcomer on rawMK2. I've been invite on this site by a really good player on PSN. I play alot of MK2 these days. Sadly, most online PS3 players are not good enough too help me step up my gameplay. That's why i'm really happy to be part of this community !

I welcome everyone who wants to be my mentor or only playing for fun. I remember back in the days when i was 15 and trowing all my money in the MK 's arcades..lol. Now continues are FREE lol.

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 12:51:04 AM »

What's goin on everyone, my PSN name is Billy_Bats1427. I'm still very new here and just wanted to introduce myself to the RawMK2 community. Like most of you guys I have been a fan of MK since I was young, goin to the arcade when MK1 was out, watchin the news report's about how "GRAPHIC," and "VIOLENT," it was. I remember getting MK2 for my Sega Genesis back in the day, it was great, but funny how there was no internet back then, or online play for that matter. I remember going into the arcade fo when MK3 hit the seen, and being a bit disappointed about how Johnny Cage, Baracka, Scorpian and Raiden, were not in the game. Lol, but like most of you, I love to play this game for the fun of it.

I got online on MK2 about a year ago, I've already faced many of you. I have faced off against people like ProjectilePoint, btbb99, Kanorules1, st-BIOZ, Soyelmejor, Foozer1, david_GEM, KRAPTiLE, and countless other's. I just wanted to wish all of you guy's the best, and I hope to meet some of you guys I have never gotten the chance to play before soon. We all love this game, let us play this game the way it was meant to be played, "for the fun of it."
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2010, 02:36:16 PM »

Sorry was i supose post in this thread

Well i made my thread already
http://rawmk2.com/general-discussion/wazz-up/
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2011, 10:52:02 PM »

Hey guys wots up, I forgot to intro myself ^^
I'm still very new to RAWMK2, I got a invite by gematria ^^
I've always been a MK fan ever since the megadrive days, I remember playing MK2 in the arcades alot (solo play) at my local Pulser arcade, I remember seeing a kung master named KFC, who could master his hat toss Fatality..
I recently got into this MAME online gaming stuff and is finding it very addictive..

hope to play u guys soon  Wink
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